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	<title>Comments on: Education and Lakdi Ki Kathi</title>
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		<title>By: chinchu</title>
		<link>http://www.withinandwithout.com/2008/08/education-and-lakdi-ki-kathi/comment-page-1/#comment-17388</link>
		<dc:creator>chinchu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh this brings back so many memories, sweet ones. Juggal hansraj and urmila matondkar look so angelic. I remember watching this on DD and catching it on binaca geetmala. I don&#039;t see it appealing to the younger lot, they have no fond memories to attach to it. 
&quot;Go on you Delhi bashers, tell me how small towns/ Bombay type cities are better!&quot;
there is , will be , only one bombay city, no types/clones. its the one and only real thing baby! 
grew up in bombay, in case you did&#039;nt guess ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh this brings back so many memories, sweet ones. Juggal hansraj and urmila matondkar look so angelic. I remember watching this on DD and catching it on binaca geetmala. I don&#8217;t see it appealing to the younger lot, they have no fond memories to attach to it.<br />
&#8220;Go on you Delhi bashers, tell me how small towns/ Bombay type cities are better!&#8221;<br />
there is , will be , only one bombay city, no types/clones. its the one and only real thing baby!<br />
grew up in bombay, in case you did&#8217;nt guess ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Shefaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shefaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ aandthirtyeights:

I understand this kind of people... I rarely watch any Hindi films and a few years ago, was the only person in a dinner party who had to ask who Katrina Kaif was. 

It _is_ possible not to know pop culture references, especially if they are coming at you from all directions and growing like topsy..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ aandthirtyeights:</p>
<p>I understand this kind of people&#8230; I rarely watch any Hindi films and a few years ago, was the only person in a dinner party who had to ask who Katrina Kaif was. </p>
<p>It _is_ possible not to know pop culture references, especially if they are coming at you from all directions and growing like topsy..</p>
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		<title>By: aandthirtyeights</title>
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		<dc:creator>aandthirtyeights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This shocks me! But I had this even worse experience some time ago, when I was talking to people some three years younger than me, and I made some reference to DDLJ and NRIs, and they stared at me blankly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This shocks me! But I had this even worse experience some time ago, when I was talking to people some three years younger than me, and I made some reference to DDLJ and NRIs, and they stared at me blankly.</p>
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		<title>By: Kima</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope the kid wasn&#039;t me. :-(  Have never heard of this song either....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope the kid wasn&#8217;t me. :-(  Have never heard of this song either&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Shefaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shefaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Neha:

Agree on all points you mention.

&quot;I detect an obsession with ‘Beedi’ here!&quot;

Haha! I was wondering when you will notice ;-)

Two reasons. One - I only managed to see the film in December 2007, on DVD, house-bound in Boston. It is funny in how it is filmed. Vivek Oberoi looks properly drunk. And someone then described Sunidhi Chauhan as &#039;LMC behenji from DU&#039; which forced me to listen more closely to her superb Hindi diction. Then I bought the song on-line. 

Two - Gulzar - yet again - does write a visceral piece of poetry. To some, the song is a raunchy number. To others, who have lived a bit in UP, it is a lot more; a sad portrayal of the life of the poor, often indebted and bonded farmer and fieldworker in the villages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Neha:</p>
<p>Agree on all points you mention.</p>
<p>&#8220;I detect an obsession with ‘Beedi’ here!&#8221;</p>
<p>Haha! I was wondering when you will notice ;-)</p>
<p>Two reasons. One &#8211; I only managed to see the film in December 2007, on DVD, house-bound in Boston. It is funny in how it is filmed. Vivek Oberoi looks properly drunk. And someone then described Sunidhi Chauhan as &#8216;LMC behenji from DU&#8217; which forced me to listen more closely to her superb Hindi diction. Then I bought the song on-line. </p>
<p>Two &#8211; Gulzar &#8211; yet again &#8211; does write a visceral piece of poetry. To some, the song is a raunchy number. To others, who have lived a bit in UP, it is a lot more; a sad portrayal of the life of the poor, often indebted and bonded farmer and fieldworker in the villages.</p>
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		<title>By: shimmeringmercury</title>
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		<dc:creator>shimmeringmercury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOT.

Thank GOODNESS for the Eighties!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOT.</p>
<p>Thank GOODNESS for the Eighties!</p>
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		<title>By: Neha Viswanathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neha Viswanathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maxdavinci: Well, they do have their own songs I guess. And maybe it&#039;s a generation gap - but at least we knew how to sing Eechak Dana! :)

varali: That was such a soothing image. Someone watching the video on mute because a kid is sleeping. I read your comment last night, and found it almost calming. 

rads: I think we&#039;ve earned our right to get all misty eyed about times gone by. What is the point of being older if we can&#039;t crib about a thing or two no?

Hehhhh: Seruppu Adi.

Thendral: I think I am at a suitable age for doing the whole &quot;these younger folks&quot; thing. God knows I&#039;ve been doing it ever since I turned five. 

Iya: Do-Re-Mi instead of Sa-Re-Ga?? Not that one is better or worse than the other. But one can&#039;t help but wonder about the need to go all English.

shimmeringmercury: I wish the internet was around then. Some wise person would have shot that on video and posted it online on youtube. :) Wouldn&#039;t that be a treat!!

Shefaly: I detect an obsession with &#039;Beedi&#039; here! Yeah, the corruption of the accent bothers me. I&#039;ve seen that in Bollywood films. Increasingly, their inability to pronounce words properly puts me off. I think the other attractive thing about this song is that real kids seem to have sung it, as opposed to adult female singers singing for children.

Meira: Absolutely agree. But they don&#039;t compare with Lakdi Ki Kathi I think. That song had that sort of spinning imagination that doesn&#039;t stop anywhere. Without quite babyfying the song itself.

mumbaigirl: No, no. I meant that things may be different in Bombay.. but that&#039;s how they are becoming in Delhi! 

radhika: Awesome! When do we get to see a video of this? Ever replaced that camera.. (I remember the tale of the camera being stolen so vividly. Was it stolen or broken?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maxdavinci: Well, they do have their own songs I guess. And maybe it&#8217;s a generation gap &#8211; but at least we knew how to sing Eechak Dana! :)</p>
<p>varali: That was such a soothing image. Someone watching the video on mute because a kid is sleeping. I read your comment last night, and found it almost calming. </p>
<p>rads: I think we&#8217;ve earned our right to get all misty eyed about times gone by. What is the point of being older if we can&#8217;t crib about a thing or two no?</p>
<p>Hehhhh: Seruppu Adi.</p>
<p>Thendral: I think I am at a suitable age for doing the whole &#8220;these younger folks&#8221; thing. God knows I&#8217;ve been doing it ever since I turned five. </p>
<p>Iya: Do-Re-Mi instead of Sa-Re-Ga?? Not that one is better or worse than the other. But one can&#8217;t help but wonder about the need to go all English.</p>
<p>shimmeringmercury: I wish the internet was around then. Some wise person would have shot that on video and posted it online on youtube. :) Wouldn&#8217;t that be a treat!!</p>
<p>Shefaly: I detect an obsession with &#8216;Beedi&#8217; here! Yeah, the corruption of the accent bothers me. I&#8217;ve seen that in Bollywood films. Increasingly, their inability to pronounce words properly puts me off. I think the other attractive thing about this song is that real kids seem to have sung it, as opposed to adult female singers singing for children.</p>
<p>Meira: Absolutely agree. But they don&#8217;t compare with Lakdi Ki Kathi I think. That song had that sort of spinning imagination that doesn&#8217;t stop anywhere. Without quite babyfying the song itself.</p>
<p>mumbaigirl: No, no. I meant that things may be different in Bombay.. but that&#8217;s how they are becoming in Delhi! </p>
<p>radhika: Awesome! When do we get to see a video of this? Ever replaced that camera.. (I remember the tale of the camera being stolen so vividly. Was it stolen or broken?)</p>
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