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		<title>By: Unabashed Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.withinandwithout.com/2008/05/on-logic-faith-and-womens-bodies/comment-page-2/#comment-16922</link>
		<dc:creator>Unabashed Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh God

 I  too am from a conservative family and my family observes all the &quot;period&quot; days. &quot;Thooram&quot;, &quot;Theetu&quot;, &quot;Aathu la illai&quot; et al. But the ill-punctuated, ungrammatical vehemence  with which Raj has argued makes me cry &quot;Voila&quot;. Here is an unashamed unabashed conservative, North Indian though he may be (whom I detest). 

         Lage Raho Raj!! Lage Raho 

LONG LIVE CONSERVATISM!! BEAT BACK THE INFIDELS!!!!</description>
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<p> I  too am from a conservative family and my family observes all the &#8220;period&#8221; days. &#8220;Thooram&#8221;, &#8220;Theetu&#8221;, &#8220;Aathu la illai&#8221; et al. But the ill-punctuated, ungrammatical vehemence  with which Raj has argued makes me cry &#8220;Voila&#8221;. Here is an unashamed unabashed conservative, North Indian though he may be (whom I detest). </p>
<p>         Lage Raho Raj!! Lage Raho </p>
<p>LONG LIVE CONSERVATISM!! BEAT BACK THE INFIDELS!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Aparna</title>
		<link>http://www.withinandwithout.com/2008/05/on-logic-faith-and-womens-bodies/comment-page-2/#comment-16919</link>
		<dc:creator>Aparna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The beauty of being a women is that she menstruates and has the wonderful gift of being able to reproduce. Yet, that is held against when it comes to GOD! Even more ominous is what most rituals follow -- menstruation is a bad word, a bodily shame that must be isolated and contained, that women are not allowed to worship God during menstruation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The beauty of being a women is that she menstruates and has the wonderful gift of being able to reproduce. Yet, that is held against when it comes to GOD! Even more ominous is what most rituals follow &#8212; menstruation is a bad word, a bodily shame that must be isolated and contained, that women are not allowed to worship God during menstruation.</p>
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		<title>By: Nandini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nandini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I had to come out of the closet and comment on this. I&#039;ve been a silent reader of your blog for sometime now. I followed these practices at home (at school, sports etc, we could do what we wanted) too thanks to my granny. My mom and sisters (not married as yet) still follow it. We fight every single time, and some things have changed for us over the years. Though not all of it. I&#039;d love to see it go totally. But nowadays, we do not fight or say anything coz of love for my granny. But yes, staying in isolation is bull shit. 

Raj, I dedicate this comment to you. I wrote this because of you. Dude, I&#039;d really like to meet you and discuss Hindu scriptures with you ;) Should be fun. We could even catch a trip to Amarnath or wherever Gods are more kind. Whaddya say? Bugger off, man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I had to come out of the closet and comment on this. I&#8217;ve been a silent reader of your blog for sometime now. I followed these practices at home (at school, sports etc, we could do what we wanted) too thanks to my granny. My mom and sisters (not married as yet) still follow it. We fight every single time, and some things have changed for us over the years. Though not all of it. I&#8217;d love to see it go totally. But nowadays, we do not fight or say anything coz of love for my granny. But yes, staying in isolation is bull shit. </p>
<p>Raj, I dedicate this comment to you. I wrote this because of you. Dude, I&#8217;d really like to meet you and discuss Hindu scriptures with you ;) Should be fun. We could even catch a trip to Amarnath or wherever Gods are more kind. Whaddya say? Bugger off, man!</p>
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		<title>By: jillumadrasi</title>
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		<dc:creator>jillumadrasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SATC parthiya, ellaya?</description>
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		<title>By: Sanjay M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanjay M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neha, excellent post, I found it incredible that such notions existed. Pls delete my first comment thats incomplete and retain only the second one, thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neha, excellent post, I found it incredible that such notions existed. Pls delete my first comment thats incomplete and retain only the second one, thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Sanjay M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanjay M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 05:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Raj - I think you&#039;re probably for real and you&#039;re really speaking your mind out. While I appreciate your outspokenness, your well-versed (atleast in your opinion) knowledge of Hindu scriptures and your good Indian Hindutva spirit, I may have some bad news.

One thing that Im not sure what its covered in the scriptures, but is a fact that can be observed by any nan himself based on his own experience, is that its not just women but &lt;a href=&quot;http://sureshg.wordpress.com/2006/12/19/just-as-the-woman-has-the-monthly-periods-after-each-twenty-eight-days-a-man-has-too&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;men as  well who have periods&lt;/a&gt;. That makes us impure as the women &lt;a href=&quot;http://sureshg.wordpress.com/2006/11/27/witch-is-a-beautiful-word-it-means-a-wise-woman&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;whom society would like to &#039;control&#039;&lt;/a&gt;

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Anyway, the incident finished sex for me. But that did not finish the sex urge per se, because just as in women there is a natural rhythm in men. I could notice that there was a peak sometimes, and for months and months you didn’t even know about it.
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&lt;blockquote&gt; it&#039;s really unfortunate that man got away with everything for centuries while society ignored women. Half the population of this planet was neglected, humiliated and treated as doormats. Even the Bible story tells you that the woman is made out of the rib of man. What preposterous nonsense! You see, women&#039;s intelligence is lost for this culture. Not only here, it&#039;s the same everywhere.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

~ &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.well.com/user/jct/nwo8.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;UG&lt;/a&gt;

Please have a look at the above links (you need to click on the underlined words)

To be able to observe this, you need to develop certain amount of sensitivity. And for that you need to be able to not be out of control yourself blindly reacting to your carnal desires every time it occurs in your impure mind (otherwise an average man might say that every day it is at a peak ;) ).

Half knowledge of scriptures and even a bad pickles jar can be used in any way to prove anything using some or the other &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fallacy&lt;/a&gt; (hope you checked the expiry date as someone had wisely advised :) )  - but at the end of the day its only one&#039;s own personal experience that really matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Raj &#8211; I think you&#8217;re probably for real and you&#8217;re really speaking your mind out. While I appreciate your outspokenness, your well-versed (atleast in your opinion) knowledge of Hindu scriptures and your good Indian Hindutva spirit, I may have some bad news.</p>
<p>One thing that Im not sure what its covered in the scriptures, but is a fact that can be observed by any nan himself based on his own experience, is that its not just women but <a href="http://sureshg.wordpress.com/2006/12/19/just-as-the-woman-has-the-monthly-periods-after-each-twenty-eight-days-a-man-has-too" rel="nofollow">men as  well who have periods</a>. That makes us impure as the women <a href="http://sureshg.wordpress.com/2006/11/27/witch-is-a-beautiful-word-it-means-a-wise-woman" rel="nofollow">whom society would like to &#8216;control&#8217;</a></p>
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Anyway, the incident finished sex for me. But that did not finish the sex urge per se, because just as in women there is a natural rhythm in men. I could notice that there was a peak sometimes, and for months and months you didn’t even know about it.
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<blockquote><p> it&#8217;s really unfortunate that man got away with everything for centuries while society ignored women. Half the population of this planet was neglected, humiliated and treated as doormats. Even the Bible story tells you that the woman is made out of the rib of man. What preposterous nonsense! You see, women&#8217;s intelligence is lost for this culture. Not only here, it&#8217;s the same everywhere.
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<p>~ <a href="http://www.well.com/user/jct/nwo8.htm" rel="nofollow">UG</a></p>
<p>Please have a look at the above links (you need to click on the underlined words)</p>
<p>To be able to observe this, you need to develop certain amount of sensitivity. And for that you need to be able to not be out of control yourself blindly reacting to your carnal desires every time it occurs in your impure mind (otherwise an average man might say that every day it is at a peak ;) ).</p>
<p>Half knowledge of scriptures and even a bad pickles jar can be used in any way to prove anything using some or the other <a href="http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies" rel="nofollow">fallacy</a> (hope you checked the expiry date as someone had wisely advised :) )  &#8211; but at the end of the day its only one&#8217;s own personal experience that really matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanjay M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanjay M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 05:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raj, I think you&#039;re probably for real and you&#039;re really speaking your mind out, I appreciate your outspokenness, your well-versed (atleast in your opinion) knowledge of Hindu scriptures and your Hindutva spirit.

Some bad news for us men may be that its not just women but &lt;a href=&quot;http://sureshg.wordpress.com/2006/12/19/just-as-the-woman-has-the-monthly-periods-after-each-twenty-eight-days-a-man-has-too&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;men as  well who have periods. That makes us impure as the women &lt;a href=&quot;http://sureshg.wordpress.com/2006/11/27/witch-is-a-beautiful-word-it-means-a-wise-woman&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;whom society would like to &#039;control&#039;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt; it&#039;s really unfortunate that man got away with everything for centuries while society ignored women. Half the population of this planet was neglected, humiliated and treated as doormats. Even the Bible story tells you that the woman is made out of the rib of man. What preposterous nonsense! You see, women&#039;s intelligence is lost for this culture. Not only here, it&#039;s the same everywhere.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

~ &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.well.com/user/jct/nwo8.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;UG&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raj, I think you&#8217;re probably for real and you&#8217;re really speaking your mind out, I appreciate your outspokenness, your well-versed (atleast in your opinion) knowledge of Hindu scriptures and your Hindutva spirit.</p>
<p>Some bad news for us men may be that its not just women but <a href="http://sureshg.wordpress.com/2006/12/19/just-as-the-woman-has-the-monthly-periods-after-each-twenty-eight-days-a-man-has-too" rel="nofollow">men as  well who have periods. That makes us impure as the women </a><a href="http://sureshg.wordpress.com/2006/11/27/witch-is-a-beautiful-word-it-means-a-wise-woman" rel="nofollow">whom society would like to &#8216;control&#8217;</a></p>
<blockquote><p> it&#8217;s really unfortunate that man got away with everything for centuries while society ignored women. Half the population of this planet was neglected, humiliated and treated as doormats. Even the Bible story tells you that the woman is made out of the rib of man. What preposterous nonsense! You see, women&#8217;s intelligence is lost for this culture. Not only here, it&#8217;s the same everywhere.</p></blockquote>
<p>~ <a href="http://www.well.com/user/jct/nwo8.htm" rel="nofollow">UG</a></p>
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